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- From: Horns
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- This a component of the Alt.Magick.Chaos files.
-
- This specific file is a dose of frop and quaff.
-
- This file is hatefully held hostage by ashton@netcom.com.
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- You might even find something useful at:
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- From: Horns
- Subject: Index
-
- Horns
- Defn
- Index
- Ed
- Banish
-
- OVERVIEW
- 01. Glossary
- 02. Groups
- 03. Books
-
- DATA
- 04. Definitions
- 05. Rants
- 06. Frequently Abusive Quotations
-
- Tail
- Banish
- Ack
- End
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- From: Horns
- Subject: Ed
-
- The file got too big and I ended up pulling the rogue section.
-
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- From: Horns
- Subject: Banish
-
- Before you shoot yourself in the censor with your newsreader,
- read the Statement of Intent in the Main file!
-
- Edit your quotes!
- Some people do not have a decent newsreader ...
- Some people may even have to download every post!
-
- Banishment from the group Will Be Accomplished by laughter.
-
- "The common defect of all mystical systems ...
- is that there has been no place for Laughter."
- -- Aleister Crowley
-
- "Could there be anything worse, and *less* chaotic, then those who
- contribute nothing to magick, and everything to politics, semantics,
- and useless definitions?" -- Tzimon Yliaster
-
- "Hmm...if you have to cite something, are you sure that
- alt.magick.chaos is the group for you? ;)" -- Blade
-
- Not all secret societies are created equal ...
- Some are more secret that others (and some only have secrets)
-
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- OVERVIEW
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- From: Overview
- Subject: Glossary
-
- 01. Glossary
-
- AX Autonomitrix. A Guild of Chaos.
- CI Chaos International. A zine put out by IOT members.
- COS Church Of Satan.
- GD Golden Dawn.
- IOT Illuminates of Thanateros. An Order of Chaos.
- LK Liber Kaos: The Psychonomicon by Peter Carrol.
- LN&P Liber Null & Psychonaut by Peter Carrol.
- OTO Ordo Templi Orientis.
- TOS Temple Of Set
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- From: Overview
- Subject: Groups
-
- 02. Groups
-
- Here are some places that you might be more welcome.
-
- ** talk.religion.newage
- ** alt.pagan
- ** soc.culture.native
-
- ** alt.atheism [the argument faq is impressive]
- ** alt.usenet.recovery
- ** alt.mindcontrol [You WILL read this group and ENJOY it!]
-
- ** alt.gothic
- ** alt.vampyres
- ** alt.horror.werewolves
- ** alt.folklore.ghost-stories
-
- ** alt.mythology
- ** alt.folklore
- ** alt.out-of-body
- ** alt.astrology
- ** alt.meditation
- ** alt.divination
- ** alt.tarot
-
- ** alt.illuminati
- ** alt.discordia
- ** alt.slack
- ** alt.evil
- ** alt.satanism
- ** alt.magick
-
- ** alt.horror.cthulhu
- ** alt.necronomicon [spelled right]
- ** alt.necromicon [sic]
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- From: Overview
- Subject: Books
-
- 03. Books
-
- This will be short list of works a neophyte might be interested in.
- There is a seperate file going into gory detail.
-
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- DATA
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- From: Data
- Subject: Definition
-
- 04. Definition
-
- This is where working definitions will be filtered.
-
- 04.01. IOT: Illuminates of Thanateros. An Order of Chaos.
- 04.02. AX: Autonomitrix. "A Chaotick Guild and WorkNet of chaotes"
- 04.03. Z: A TAZ.
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 04.01. IOT: Illuminates of Thanateros. An Order of Chaos.
-
- Here is the first public notice of the IOT from
- "The New Equinox Magazine",1978. Marviously worded ...
-
- "Spiritual heirs to the Zos Kia Cultus, the Illuminates of Thanateros
- are drinkers of the dual ecstacies of the sex and death gnoses. The
- IOT represents a fusion of Thelemic Magick, Tantra, The Sorceries of
- Zos and Tao. The non-mysteries of symbolic systems have been
- discarded in favour of mastery of technique. ... "
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Illuminates of Thanateros c/o Weiser
- POB 612 York Beach ME 03910 207/363-4393.
- Listed as the 'official' way to contact the IOT ... and it will
- remain the best way, so long as the group makes so little effort
- to keep up a presence.
-
- dougg@netcom.com (dagon productions) writes:
- >Again, if you are in the US, the fastest way to contact the IOT
- >is by contacting the address below.
- >To contact Weisser means that your letter is sent to Weisser,
- >then sent to Pete Carroll, then sent to the US Sectionhead.
-
- Illuminates of Thanateros 7349 Via Paseo Del Sur Suite 515-205
- Scottsdale, AZ 85258.
- The IOTUS headquarters as of 9407 ...
-
- The IOT have neither a site nor a net contact ...
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: dougg@netcom.com (dagon productions)
- Newsgroups: alt.magick.chaos,alt.magick,alt.magick.order
- Subject: IOT FYI
-
- It appears that there is a proliferation of anonymous posters
- passing themselves off as the IOT. Interesting since the IOT has
- never made any public announcments on any of the Magical Usenet groups.
- The Pact of the IOT has no set policy and no lines ared drawn
- concerning other organizations. The IOT continues to move forward,
- choosing not to involve itself in the mundane affairs and inane
- postings that make up the majority of the posts to these Usenet groups.
-
- Douglas Grant for the IOT USA.
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 04.02. AX: Autonomitrix. "A Chaotick Guild and WorkNet of chaotes"
-
- From the Nascent Manifesto of 930111
-
- The name AutonomatriX is derived from the words autonomy and matrix
- to represent a self-directed and self-governing repository of
- information. The emblem of the Auto-nomatriX is a circular blade
- with eight teeth providing a background to the glyph of Eris
- turned on its side.
-
- The AutonomatriX is a networking chaos magic guild of those striving
- to discover and rejuvenate magical ideas and technical skills with
- success as the only key to validation. We do not discriminate on
- the basis of lifestyle, gender, affiliation, race, or sexuality.
- We seek to interact with creative magicians who are pushing boundaries
- instead of being trapped by them. We are a guild composed of working
- craftspeople, whereas an order/lodge/clique is generally an exclusive
- membership of supplicants.
-
- The time of centralized info-banks is at an end; the nature of
- "classified" or "secret" information is that it is more often limiting
- than useful to the collector, and only profitable to the banker of such
- media. Hierarchical structures are unnecessary and undesired; checks
- and balances regarding membership are determined by an individual's
- interaction with the rest of the group rather than personal prejudices
- or acceptance for any member by any other member. The principles "sink
- or swim" and "(inter)action equals life" are applicable to this magical
- guild, as in any network.
-
- Information is distributed throughout the entire active membership of
- the network in the issuance of the Contacts Listing and Index of the
- Corpus Fecundi by the AX curators.
-
- Ikol 2933 Augusta St #18 San Luis Obispo CA 93401
- To: eingham@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu
-
- Temple Babel POB 26362 SF CA 94126
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 04.03. Z.
-
- The Z(cluster) is a group of chaos magicians who have temporarily
- aggregated for the purpose of cracking the universal consensual
- belief structure and thus bringing about the end of the world.
-
- Originating in a cluster of New Orleans sorcerers who are artists,
- musicians and writers, mostly gay, with a strong contingent from
- the leather community, the Z(cluster) is an attempt to configure
- a new form of organization, one that is non-hierarchichal,
- non-dogmatic, inclusive, anarchistic, and flexible. The Z(cluster)
- is open to all. Membership requires a simple declaration. There
- are no dues. There are no grades. There are no leaders. There is
- no received truth. Opinions of Z(cluster) members, including
- these statements, are personal and non-binding and may be adopted
- or discarded by members as whim or analytic thought provides.
-
- If you do wish to contact us, the address follows:
-
- defrat@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu or marik@aol.com
-
- Mark Defrates 5014 South Prieur New Orleans LA 70125
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- From: Data
- Subject: Rants
-
- 05. Rants
-
- 05.01. Chaos Magick
- 05.02. Chaos Order
-
- 05.05. Thelemite
- 05.06. Satanist
- 05.07. Setian
- 05.08. Greetings
-
- 05.09. Chaos Star
- 05.10. Kia
- 05.11. Ouranian Barbaric
- 05.12. Colour of MagicK
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.01. Chaos Magick?
-
- "The Lords of Chaos are
- the enemies of Logic,
- the jugglers of Truth,
- the molders of Beauty"
- -- Hanafax from _The Knight of the Swords_ by Michael Moorcock
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- "...if you want a one-line definition with which most Chaoists
- would probably not disagree, then I offer the following.
- Chaoists usually accept the meta-belief that belief is a tool
- for achieving effects; it is not an end in itself."
- -- Peter Carroll
- January, 1992
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- In Chaos Magic, beliefs are not seen as ends in themselves, but as
- tools for creating desired effects. To fully realize this is to
- face a terrible freedom in which Nothing is True and Everything is
- Permitted, which is to say that everything is possible, there are
- no certainties, and the consequences can be ghastly. Laughter
- seems to be the only defence against the realisation that one does
- not even have a real self.
-
- So welcome to the Kali Yuga of the Pandaemonaeon wherein nothing is
- true and everything is permissable. For in these post-absolutist
- days it is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock
- which will confound you on the day it shatters. Philosophers have
- become no more than the keepers of useful sarcasms, for the secret
- is out that there is no secret of the universe. All is Chaos and
- evolution is going nowhere in particular. It is pure chance which
- rules the universe and thus, and only thus, is life good. We are
- born accidentally into a random world where only seeming causes
- lead to apparent effects, and very little is predetermined,
- thank Chaos.
-
- Reject then the obscenities of contrived uniformity, order and
- purpose. Turn and face the tidal wave of Chaos from which
- philosophers have been fleeing in terror for millennia. Leap in
- and come out surfing its crest, sporting amidst the limitless
- weirdness and mystery in all things, for those who reject false
- certainties. Thank Chaos we shall never exhaust it.
- Create, destroy, enjoy, IO CHAOS!
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: pali151@netcom.com (Tzimon Yliaster)
-
- It begins with knowing how near and how far Whatever is. Then you
- concentrate on the placement of objects. Take neither nourishment,
- nor stimulant nor any drug. Use pain, when it comes, as a sharp
- wedge into the lower half.
-
- Dance. Climb a mountain. Strip off your clothes (read civilization)
- and break something cherished that owns you as you own it.
-
- Avoid recruiters, and shoo away those who want to "teach you magick".
- To paraphrase Austin Spare, all any teacher can do is show you your
- own magnificence.
-
- Examine your obsessions. What are they, really? Fuel. Burn them
- up and move on. Don't let anything restrict you, least of all
- "groups" (the shortest path to nowhere). Every group implies
- hierarchy, whatever their press kits may say, and any structure is a
- lessening of the degree of freedom. Chaos is the greatest degree of
- freedom there can be, as it encompasses all potential and possibility.
-
- Turn your will against your fears and your insecurities. Bury
- yourself. Hang upside-down and sing "Hallelujah" in public. People
- will think you mad, but what's one more madman, and isn't madness
- often little more than the folly of genius?
-
- You *are* involved! Everything is involved, and it's really a
- question of what the nature of your involvement will be.
- Welcome;
- I hope we haven't kept you waiting too long :=}
-
- Try everything. Be ye manic!!! We are all our own set of variables,
- and for each of us there are at least slightly different ways by
- which we can shortcut cause-and-effect. The only secrets are the
- ones that have to do with the ways that work for *you*, even if
- others say you're wrong. All that matters is effectiveness, and
- the only way to find these keys is to *do*. It takes time, and it
- takes effort, and maybe even a little bit of your own substance;
- think of it as an investment, if nothing more. It will, without
- question, pay off.
-
- But you have to start *now*... because a part of the set of variables
- is time, and its a very limiting factor.
-
- Lean way back, hold your breath, and count backwards from 418.
-
- It's begun :=}
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: locklin@phyast.pitt.edu (Lupo the Butcher)
-
- "Chaos Theory" is generally concerned with making more complex
- physical predictions, sometimes based on a "chaos/order" measurement.
- "Chaos Magick" may or may not be concerned with utelizing paradigms of
- "chaos theory" to exert change in accordance with ones telos
- (in my case it would certainly be the former)...
-
- "Chaos Magick" may also be the latest attempt to appeal to the
- testosterone junkie set of the magickal community via their
- lust of destruction, much as other LHP groups
- (Satanists & sinister Pagans) do in other ways.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- from Benjamin Rowe
-
- I have received several complaints about my published rituals
- recently. Some complain that they are too elaborate, others that they
- are too simple, and some question whether they really qualify as
- magickal rituals in the traditional sense. There is some justice in
- all these, and they should be addressed with respect to the work
- presented here.
-
- The complaints of over-elaborateness stem from the fact that it is
- impossible to perform any significant part of the works in a single
- session. This is perfectly correct, and is done deliberately. My
- experience has been that the rewards given to the magician by the
- "angels" of the Enochian system are very precisely gauged to the
- amount of care and effort the magician puts into the work. Works that
- are planned, rehearsed, and carried out over a period of weeks or
- months are much more likely to produce significant initiations than
- any number of single-session efforts. The present work was designed
- to be performed in stages, with the expectation that each stage will
- be performed until the powers invoked achieve a self-sustaining
- presence in the magicianAs temple before he passes on to the next
- stage. It can be expected that the rewards will be commensurate with
- the effort involved.
-
- Complaints of excessive simplicity derive from lack of the pompous
- verbiage typically found in formal rituals, and the dearth of advice
- concerning symbols, implements, and materiel that would help to fire
- the imagination of the magician. There is a decidedly bare-bones feel
- to the descriptions. This is perhaps an expression of my own character
- as a magician; I find that complex pomp and ceremony put me off rather
- than enhancing the work. I have complete faith that every magicianAs
- imagination and intuition will provide him with enhancements
- appropriate to his or her own character and style, and so see no need
- to provide more than the minimum schema necessary to accomplish the
- work successfully.
-
- [from _COMSELHA: A spiritual excercise for Enochian magicians]
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.02. Chaos Order?
-
- From: johnson@sleipnir.pb.wes.mot.com (Mark Johnson)
-
- Beware of equating things based on the occurence of the same label.
-
- We are talking about three things here:
-
- 1. Chaos science: the characterization of nonlinear phenomena to
- facilitate a limited mathematical predictability.
- 2. Chaos: disorder. The absence or diminished presence of order
- where a higher degree of order is expected.
- 3. Chaos: the elemental force of creation and destruction, as
- opposed to order, the sustaining and suppressing force.
-
- 3 is the original definition, from the greek. 2 is a common
- misinterpretation, and 1 is a name chosen by mathematicians
- on the grounds that it sounds cool.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: raudlee@xyplex.com
-
- Chaos can be beautiful and good. Order can be dangerous and evil.
- As any carpenter will tell you, some tools are dangerous. Dangerous
- tools are safest when properly sharpened, and used by experts.
- You get to be an expert by practicing your sharpening skills,
- not by hacking away.......
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: pali151@netcom.com (Tzimon Yliaster)
- Subject: Re: Stalking 101
-
- Tyagi Mordred Nagasiva (Tyagi@cup.portal.com) wrote:
- : The way that I define 'chaos', it does *not* include organization.
- : There is no perceivable order inherent to anything that is 'chaotic'.
- : Therefore, 'chaotic organization' is, with this definition,
- : meaningless, and oxy-moron.
- : Tzi, I'd like to know what 'chaos' means to you that it might contain
- : any hint of organization at any time. Thanks.
- : Tyagi
-
- Order is a subset of Chaos, temporarily existent at times, and drawing
- its existence from our perception. A group of individuals may work
- together in a coherent way to accomplish a chaotick act, and when the
- act is finished, move on. As long as they have done so of their own
- whim and will, then they haven't acted in any way that is counter to
- chaos. This only comes when permanence is forced upon them.
-
- Chaos, at a human level, means doing what one chooses, rather than
- following a set of rules. If this includes a desire to form some
- sort of group to achieve some aim, then so be it. To *restrict*
- oneself from doing so because of someone else's rules, opinions,
- or perceptions would be far more orderly than to do it.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: ReaperD@aol.com (The Grin Reaper)
-
- >If Carrol emphasizes the use of 'chaos' as a source of power,
- >instead of the more positive 'kia',
- >that means he deliberatly chooses the abyss
- >... should I say it ... going into de-evolution ...
-
- This is only true if you accept two of things as true.
- 1] Disorder=Distruction
- 2] Chaos=Disorder
-
- As a Discordian, I feel that these assumptions are more correct.
- 1] Disorder= BOTH creative and destructive
- 2] Order= BOTH creative and destructive
- 3] Chaos= Both Order and Disorder in a formless state.
-
- For more information consult your pinial gland.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- >From: afgm@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Fra Semper Non Sequitur)
-
- >An added elaboration is to draw a distinction between Chaos and
- >disorder. To me, Chaos is a level above the artificial distinctions
- >of either order/disorder. Hence, to say Chaos (in the higher sense)
- >contains order is meaningless, but equally to say Chaos contains
- >disorder is meaningless (both being eqully illusory).
-
- >However, in a less lofty sense, I say again that Chaos contains order
- >and disorder, organization ( eg the human body / colony of ants),
- >disorganization ( muddy water), and plenty of it.
- >She aint your average everyday type Goddess.
-
- >The upshot :
-
- >1) With Chaos as above,the fount of all, terms such as
- >(dis)organization are quite meaningless. Take neither term.
-
- >2) With Chaos as below,the 'natural' world, terms such as
- >(dis)organization are uesfull only in pairs. Take both of them.
-
- >3) With whatever Chaos, to dismiss organization and have only
- >disorder, is a bizarre worshipping of a single side of a polarity,
- >eg Christianity. Take both or neither.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
-
- I'd say that written rules are at their most useful when,
- in fact, they *subvert* order. Look at the U.S. Constitution, the
- Magna Carta, Civil Rights legislation, and so on. People are still
- arguing over the Second Amendment...
-
- Unwritten rules are used far more often to maintain order, since they
- are implicit parts of a world-view, rather than explicit concepts
- which can be critically examined. Examples are discrimination based
- on race, sex, or academic qualifications, religious bigotry,
- and so on.
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.05. Thelemite.
-
- >From: Tyagi@HouseOfKaos.Abyss.com
- >To: thelema-list+@andrew.cmu.edu
- >Subject: What is a 'Thelemite'?
-
- >>What's a Thelemite?
-
- >The word was popularized by Aleister Crowley, whom I find quite
- >inspirational. It means one who lives by the Law of Thelema.
- >'Thelema' is a Greek word meaning 'will', and this Law was
- >expressed by Crowley as 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of
- >the Law.' He echoed a scripture which is important to some
- >within the Thelemic movement, called _The Book of the Law_.
-
- >In a nutshell the Law of Thelema supports the individual will and
- >how these translate into social dynamics. Some understand it to
- >be a license for anarchy. I don't think it is a license at all,
- >but a description of how people behave. We all do whatever we
- >want all the time. If we are aware of the consequences and
- >specifically choose our actions, then we might be called a
- >Thelemite. :>
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- "Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into
- the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the
- Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole
- of the Law."
-
- Liber AL vel Legis sub figura CCXX. II.40.
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.06. Satanist.
-
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.07. Setian.
-
- From: Michael.Aquino@125-430.wmeonlin.sacbbx.com (Michael Aquino)
-
- The founders of the Temple of Set disagreed with a May 1975 decision
- by LaVey to sell the Satanic Priesthood [and all other initiatory
- degrees of the Church of Satan] for personal profit. Prior to that
- time the Priesthood had been considered a sacred trust, attainable
- by personal merit exclusively.
-
- When LaVey announced his new policy, approximately 100 of the
- 250-total members of the Church resigned on principle. These
- would later become the founders of the Temple of Set. It differs
- not only in its continuance of strict interpretation of initiatory
- standards, but also by an open atmosphere of communication and a
- rejection of Judaeo/Christian iconography.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- From: Michael.Aquino@f430.n125.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Aquino)
-
- >What is the Setian view on magickal systems, especially those of
- >Carroll, Crowley, and Spare?
-
- A general answer to your first question may take care of the others
- as well ...
-
- The Temple of Set approaches "magic" with a very broad brush; magic
- is magic, be it used for whatever purpose. It involves the use of
- principles which have not yet been identified or codified [or
- accepted by the establishment] to be classified as "science". Since
- it is imperfectly understood and applied, it yields imperfect and
- unreliable results. In this it is no different than the science of
- flight at the time the Wright brothers & others were trying to get
- an assortment of crazy contraptions into the air, usually - but
- not always - with comic opera results.
-
- So today's magician must be prepared to achieve some success, but
- also to screw up a lot. He may take some consolation in being a
- pioneer, but he must also expect that non-magicians will think him
- a nut. Thus it has been with all pioneers throughout history. And
- of course some of them got somewhere, while others didn't.
- No guarantees in this line of work.
-
- The Temple divides magic into only two "colors" for basic purposes:
- White and Black. While I could give you a variety of technical
- definitions, let's keep it simple: White Magic involves
- self-deception as well as the deceit of others, by being based on
- mere superstition which either has nothing whatever to underpin it
- or which has long since been proven a piece of nonsense. For
- example: Judaeo/Christianity and all "occultisms" derived from
- it, such as the Cabala.
- [Pause here for shock waves to subside.]
-
- Black Magic is magic in which there is no self-deceit whatever.
- The magician knows exactly what he is doing, why he is doing it,
- and what he expects to accomplish. Associates or assistants also
- do what they do with open eyes. Persons, situations, or things
- which are the *object* of the magical operation may be deceived,
- manipulated, or otherwise changed.
-
- In this sense a Black Magician might conduct a "White Magical"
- ceremony for purposes of controlling people who believe in it.
- But he would not believe in it, except as a tool, himself.
-
- This dovetails into your question about Set & other gods. Set is not
- a cartoon-god like YHVH, Krishna, et al. - but is rather a
- *principle* [or *Form* in Platonic terminology] giving substance
- and organization to individual self-consciousness. So while you
- could theoretically pray or talk to Set, in actuality you would be
- praying or talking to the thing which makes yourself yourself -
- but which simultaneously enables other independent selves.
-
- One of the founding principles of the Temple of Set in 1975 was that
- "all other gods are created by men". This has never been interpreted
- as a "sneer", but simply as an important realization of metaphysical
- truth. It is precisely the psychecentric consciousness which enables
- us to create "gods" and "daemons" to personify wishes, desires,
- prerogatives beyond those to which we are limited as
- inhabitants/prisoners of a mechanical, physical universe. We
- approach becoming gods ourselves - the process which the Temple
- summarizes as _Xeper_ - as we strengthen those aspects of ourselves
- which are not dictated by the objective universe.
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.08. Greetings
-
- + 93 ... Ia ... Nothing ...
-
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- Nothing is Permited
-
- >From: dougg@netcom.com (Doug Grant)
-
- >The supposed origin of this statement is from the Hassan I Sabbah of
- >the Islamic heretical sect the Nizari Isma'ilis, also known as the
- >Hashasssins. The dictum is seen by some to be the jist of the
- >highest level of initiation within the Nizari Isma'ilis, wherein
- >the initiates would turn their backs to Mecca and make this
- >statement. It has also been attributed to being the last words of
- >Hassan I Sabbah on his deathbed.
-
- >Nothing is True - Everything is Permitted is an english
- >interpretation of an Arabic statement.
-
- >Other translations appear as:
- >Believe Nothing - Dare All
- >On Earth There is No Reckoning
-
- >The statement was popularized by William S. Burroughs in his many
- >literary works.
-
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- 05.09. Chaos Star?
-
- "In the distance, he saw the banners of Law and of Chaos raised,
- side by side, the one bearing the eight radiating arrows, the
- other bearing the single straight arrow of Law. And over all this
- hung a huge balance in perfect equilibrium. ... The balance
- sometimes tips. It must be righted. And that is the power of
- mortals, to adjust the balance."
- -- from _The Knight of the Swords_ by Michael Moorcock.
-
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- The Chaostar, is, in fact, the eight rays as you indicate. The
- symbol is sometimes used in physics to represent the four
- dimensions of matter (length, width, depth, time), and thus also
- represents the extension of a point to a line, square, cube, and
- tesseract ... by the formula:
-
- point "Xiqual Udinbak"
- line "Xiqual Uzarfe, D'kyeng"
- square "Xiqual Kudex, Eacht"
- cube "Xiqual Ashara, Dijow"
- tesseract "Xiqual Thaldoma, Nobo"
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.10. Kia?
-
- From: pali151@netcom.com (Sri Palindrome.151)
-
- Kia is a term coined by Austin Osman Spare as a label for the
- unmanifest portion of the human psyche/spirit/etc. Thus, the Kia is
- the Chaos within each of us. Being thus, it is the source of
- inspiration, and the interface between the finite human mind and the
- infinite. It's also, in a sense, the energy that causes us to grow,
- change, and expand. Note the similarity between the words Kia and
- "Ki," the Chinese word for the vital energy.
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- 05.11. Ouranian Barbaric?
-
- From: pali151@netcom.com (Sri Palindrome.151)
-
- >I don't know the origins or meanings of many of the words mentioned.
-
- The words are in a language termed "Ouranian Barbaric," which is
- generated via the Ouranos Rite. Ouranos Baphomet is taken, in
- some quarters, as the "god of magick" and source of the Great Work
- itself.
-
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- 05.12. Colour of Magic
-
- Humor from Prachett's wonderful book made into tragic magic by
- Pope Pete will go here when I can bear to deal with it.
-
- =======================================================================
- FREQUENTLY ABUSIVE QUOTATIONS
- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- From: Data
- Subject: Frequently Abusive Quotations
-
- 06. Frequently Abusive Quotations
-
- 06.01. Where is the FAQ?
-
- (please repost answers as needed)
-
- There is no FAQ.
- Why don't you make one?
- We don't need a FAQ.
- FAQ's are like assholes ... everyone has one but most people don't
- use them often enough.
- There are already several FAQs but no one feels like posting them.
- We had a FAQ but it is being held hostage until you post hard data.
-
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- From: Tail
- Subject: Banish
-
- THE GENERAL CURSE
-
- O THOU wicked and disobedient spirit, because thou hast rebelled,
- and hast not obeyed nor regarded my words which I have rehearsed;
- they being all glorious and incomprehensible names of the true GOD,
- the maker and creator of thee and of me, and of all the world;
- I DO by the power of these names the which no creature is able to resist,
- curse thee into the depths of the BOTTOMLESS ABYSS,
- there to remain unto the DAY OF DOOM in chains,
- and in fire and brimstone unquenchable.
- -- some paliomage ...
-
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
- -- Tzimon Yliaster
-
- *giggle* *giggle* *GIGGLE*
- *MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargg* *cough*
- *choke* *hackgiggle*
- -- Tim/Void
-
- BBBBBRRRROOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!
- -- Joseph Max.555
-
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAEHAHAHA GO AWAY LITTLE CHAYOAT!
- -- Tyagi Mordred Nagasiva
-
- BHHhhhWWWwwwAAAAAHHHAAAhhhaaahaha !!!
- -- AShTON the UnSubtle
-
- "Pure disinformation."
- -- Doug Grant
- "A qoute taken out of context, and completely unrelated to this FAQ
- or anything other than the statement it was made in relation to."
- -- Doug Grant, following up this post
-
- te heh hee he teh heh heh
- -- Mikey
-
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- TAIL
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- From: Tail
- Subject: Ack
-
- The article skeleton was swiped from the news.software.nn faq.
-
- From: pali151@netcom.com (Sri Palindrome.151)
-
- From: ice@netcom11.netcom.com (I. Chris English)
-
- PRINCIPIA CHAOTICA: Chaos Magic for the Pandaemeon
-
- From: davey@world.std.com ([Fob])
-
- From: oispeggy@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
-
- From: Tyagi@HouseOfKaos.Abyss.com (Tyagi Mordred Nagasiva)
-
- From: Shawn Clayton Knight <knightster+@CMU.EDU>
-
- From: johnson@sleipnir.pb.wes.mot.com (Mark Johnson)
-
- From: locklin@phyast.pitt.edu (Lupo the Butcher)
-
- Benjamin Rowe
-
- From: afgm@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Fra Semper Non Sequitur)
-
- From: dougg@netcom.com (Doug Grant)
-
- From: Michael.Aquino@f430.n125.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Aquino)
-
- From: max@tatertot.com (Joseph Swails)
-
- From: wednsday@mcs.com
-
- From: blade@pentagon.io.com (Scott "Blade" Hamilton)
-
- From: tim@midnight.demon.co.uk (Tim)
-
- From: ReaperD@aol.com (The Grin Reaper)
-
- From: "Michael G. Koopman" <koopman@ctc.com>
-
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- From: Tail
- Subject: End
-
- go away
-
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